If you think that Buddha, Christ or Krishnamurti speak to the person, you are mistaken. They know well that the vyakti, the outer self, is but a shadow of the vyakta, the inner self, and they address and admonish the vyakta only. They tell him to give attention to the outer self, to guide and help it, to feel responsible for it; in short, to be fully aware of it. Awareness comes from the Supreme and pervades the inner self; the so-called outer self is only that part of one's being of which one is not aware. One may be conscious, for every being is conscious, but one is not aware. What is included in awareness becomes the inner and partakes of the inner. You may put it differently: the body defines the outer self, consciousness the inner, and in pure awareness the Supreme is contacted.
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The 'I am' in movement creates the world. The 'I am' at peace becomes the Absolute.
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16 August 2017
PtC: July 26, 1980. consciousness is useless.
M. All this conceptualizing, all this articulation, has been
taking place only after the original concept arose that you are. What was the
position before this concept arose? At that time did you have any concepts, any
needs?
Q. Like deep sleep?
M. This concept that it is like deep sleep is not incorrect,
but it is still a concept, and the original state is beyond concepts.
Q. What is the fact now?
M. That you are awake is itself a concept at this moment.
Let this sink in.
Q. It's a movie.
M. Go back to the source: before this concept of beingness,
"I Am," arose, what was your state?
Q. I don't know.
M. That which you don't know, that is the right state.
Everything that comes after this consciousness is attained, is like a dose of
salts - it is useless, consciousness is useless.
Q. So the search, all aspects of it, belongs to the same?
M. Throw away every thought, every experience, everything
that happens after this consciousness has come. Other than throwing it away as
useless, there is nothing to be done beyond this firm understanding in which
you become more and more absorbed.
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PtC: July 23, 1980. only recognize.
Q. My tendency is to look outward, rather than inward.
M. That is the quality of your "I Amness," not of
you, the Absolute. You have embraced the body as your Self. That also is
superficial, you don't know what is happening inside the body either.
Q. Correct. I don't know what's happening in my organs or
how they act.
M. All the actions happening in this wide world, the samples
of all those, are also happening in the body.
Q. That which is, does not know Itself.
M. In that state you do not know you are. With the tool, or
aid, of beingness you know you are.
Q. With the tool we try to go beyond?
M. Don't try to go beyond consciousness, only recognize,
understand, what the beingness is, that does the trick. The proof that
consciousness was not lies with you only. You, the Absolute, are the proof of
that. Spontaneously, uncalled for, this beingness has come and this beingness
is being witnessed by you, the Absolute.
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02 August 2017
PtC: July 22, 1980. suffer this beingness
Q. Even beingness is an imperfect temporary phase?
M. That consciousness is a product of the food essence body;
the body is the fuel on which "I Amness" is sustained. Do you not
observe what the body is? Is it not a morsel of food and water? Presently you
are embroiled in this "I Amness," but you - the Absolute - are not
this "I Amness."
Q What you are saying is, even the "I Amness," the
way you recognize it in the mind, that is not the way it is actually?
M. Take it like this: this is as good or as bad an
experience as having a tummy ache or a pain in the neck. In my perfect state I
never had a pain, but when the "I Amness" was there, suddenly I felt
the pain. That "I Amness" will merge, will disappear, I am the
perfect state when "I Amness" was not. I definitely know that "I
Amness" was not. Just as I have to suffer a chronic ailment I suffer this
beingness. Just understand at what level I am talking, to what level I am
leading you.
Just imagine the flight to which this spiritual talk
has gone. The normal spiritual approach everywhere is to worship this
consciousness with so many titles, but to me it is a pain and I want to get rid
of that.
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13 July 2017
PtC: July 21, 1980. observer of the seed
Q: First I hadn't any form, isn't that so?
M. Yes, even now you don't have any form. It is not your
shape, it is the shape of the seed.
Q Isn't it the nature of the seed that it grows, like a tree
grows out of a seed?
M. It is its nature.
Q: So, I am not to blame. The seed must be foolish.
M. Because the seed is foolish it has come like this. The
seed is the original foolish state, yet what big titles are given to that seed.
The seed is transient, and the whole world is full of the seeds. All the five
elements, all the objective world, is in that seed. You are not the seed - you
are the observer of the seed.
For many centuries the Western people were not interested in
spiritual matters, but now they have realized that, in spite of all their
riches, they cannot get real peace, so they are searching for the truth now.
The nearer you get to the truth, the more you lose interest in worldly affairs.
Such a one will not have any particular interest in the world, but will act
like an ordinary person.
The sum and substance of spirituality is nothing but to come
to a decision, make a judgment, about the Self, God and the world - what is it?
You must first dispose of this question.
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08 July 2017
PtC: July 20, 1980. this is a process
Questioner: What is mind?
M: Mind is the language of the vital breath. That
mind-language will talk only about the impressions it has collected. The
knowledge "I Am" is not a thought but observes the thoughts.
Out of prana, the pranava, the beginning of sound, in the
sound is the love to be. The innermost, subtlest principle is that gnawing
principle "I Am, I Am," without words, by which you know you are. It
has no form or image, it is only beingness, the love to be.
Para shakti is the beingness or love to be. The next stage
of the Para shakti is Para shunti, the formation but not yet perceptible. The
next stage is mind formation: the language is formed in the mind, next is the
explosion of words, vocal words. In this where are you? This is a process
happening.
For you I am expounding very secret knowledge about your own
beingness, how it came about - that is what I am talking about.
This play is just happening; you are not playing a part.
When you are ignorant, you think you are playing a part in this manifest world.
There is no one working deliberately - it is happening spontaneously. You
cannot claim anything in this process. When you are thoroughly knowledgeable
you will come to the conclusion that this beingness is also an illusion.
Q. Who recognizes that it is illusion or ignorance?
M. Only that one recognizes or witnesses all that as
ignorance. That one cannot understand That one, he can witness and understand
only the ignorance. The one who recognizes all this as ignorance, that one is
knowledgeable.
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20 June 2017
PtC: July 19, 1980. all this is unreal
Most essential is that knowledge "I Am." Claim it,
appropriate it as your own. If that is not there, nothing is. Knowledge of all
the stages will be obtained only with the aid of this knowledge "I
Am."
From the Absolute no-knowing state, spontaneously, this
consciousness "I Am" has appeared - there is no reason, no cause.
Spontaneously it has come, with the waking state, deep sleep, the five
elemental play, three Gunas, and Prakriti and Purusha. Then it embraces the
body as its self and therefore identifies as a male or a female. This "I
Amness" has its own love to be: it wants to remain, to perpetuate itself,
but it is not eternal.
This passing show may be likened to the following situation:
suppose I was well all along, then suddenly I was sick and the doctor gave me
medicine. After three days my fever was gone. So this stage of fever for three
days is the "I Am" consciousness. Exactly like that - a passing show,
a time-bound state. This principle loves to be, and one must not belittle it -
it is a very Godly principle. This "I Amness" contains the entire
cosmos.
It is said that all this is unreal. When is it certified as
unreal? Only when one understands this temporary phase. And in the process of
understanding one is in the Absolute and from there recognizes this as a
temporary, unreal state.
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10 June 2017
PtC: July 9, 1980. understand that point
I do not believe that anybody did exist prior to me. When my
beingness appeared, then everything appeared. Prior to my beingness, nothing
was. Originally I am without any stigma, uncovered by anything.
The Paramatman is the core Self, the highest Self. Its
identity is without any stigma, it is subtler than space.
Why are you dying? Understand the first moment, when you
understood that you are. Due to what? How?
Once you understand this, you are the highest of the Gods –
the point at which everything rises; the source and the end is the same point.
Once you understand that point, you are released from that
point. Nobody tries to understand this happening of the "I Amness."
I, the Absolute am not this "I Amness."
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06 June 2017
PtC: July 1, 1980. established in beingness
Q. Then how do I elevate it to a higher level?
M. Leave it alone! There is no question of elevating to a
higher level. Here it is only a question of understanding.
Iswara is the manifestation of the five elements and the
universe, the "I Amness." To the Absolute, the witnessing of that
"I Amness" occurs. This is the Absolute standpoint, siddha. This
understanding should not be claimed by you, who are a sadhaka. Sadhaka means
the process of getting established in the Iswara principle, the consciousness.
Q. Last night "there was an experience of very great
vibration in the body. In fact there was no body, just vibration, no form, and
very intense.
M. Whatever that vibration, that is the product of the five
elements.
Q. It is not a taste of "I Amness"?
M. If you want to express it that way, you may. These are
the five elements, three gunas, prakriti and purusha, ten elements. These are
the expressions of your beingness.
Q. So when Maharaj says to stay firm in the consciousness of
not being the body-mind, how does that relate to these ten elements?
M. That talk - to transcend the body-mind and establish in
your beingness, is for the kindergarten spiritual seeker, the lowest level. But
now I am talking to a sadhaka who is getting established in beingness; that
first lesson is over now.
Q. Oh!
M. Your world, your universe, is the expression of your
beingness. The second step, the sadhaka gets established in beingness, Iswara
principle, manifestation. A sadhaka is manifestation.
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01 June 2017
PtC: June 29, 1980. a temporary condition
Maharaj: Whatever concept you have about yourself cannot be
true. The "I Amness" is the prime concept, and it has to be satisfied
by letting it do its normal work in the world. The important thing is the
realization of the fact that it is a concept.
Questioner: In the world this concept is always trying to be
at the top. Even to the children we say, "You must be first in the
examination. "Is it wrong to push your personality and individuality on
others?
M. What is wrong is that you consider yourself to be limited
to this body and shape. What knowledge I try to give is given to the knowledge
"I Am" in each of you, which is the same. If you try to get that
knowledge as an individual you will never get it.
Q. If “I Am" is a concept and it disappears, how is one
to know that that concept has disappeared?
M. That "I Am" is a concept is to be understood
while the concept is there. Once it merges in the original state, who (or what)
is there who wants to know? The illusory entity has disappeared.
Q. I am convinced that this `I Am" is a concept and it
will end, but why should I take it that it is a false concept?
M. How and when did this very thought come? Did this thought
not come merely as a movement in that concept itself? If the consciousness were
not there, the thought would not be there.
Consciousness is a temporary condition which has come upon
the total, timeless, spaceless, changeless state. It is a happening which has
come and which will disappear.
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